Hooray!!! The Marines have chimed in and they too think this smells BAD!

The OCSD can release information - within 48 hours - about the Marine involved in the fatal car crash in Dana Point, but they can't release information about the deputy's actions in the shooting of an unarmed Marine TEN days ago?? Something very strange going on here...

I think they might have just messed with the wrong branch of service.

USMC = Semper Fidelis
OCSD = Fac Et Excusa, Si Fecisti Nega

Its so unfortunate!!! Wrongful death and no one to blame? Shame on you Deputy!!! Wtf do you mean you shot and killed the father to protect HIS kids!!!???

Yeah, the SOB Cop was doing it to protect the children.

BLAME THE DEAD GUY!! Dead Men Tell No Tales.

Did the marine use deadly force AGAINST THE OFFCER????NO. SO WHY THE COVERUP? Peopl make mistakes. The marine may have..we do not know the cop KILLED a man. the cop did not say dealy force by tha marine was involoved. Therefore he overstepped his auhority. The Car was thier, back up was coming, the kids werwe fine at the time. IT IS NOT HIS POSITION TO ACT AS JUDGE JURY AND EXECUTIONER BECAUSE A PERSON SAYS NO TO HIM. SAYIN NO TO A COP IS NOT AND SHOULD NOT BE A CAPITOL OFFENSE OR WE ALL HAVE A LOT TO WORRY ABOUT.

I see a $2M wrongful death suit against OCSD and a murder 2 charge against Deputy Unsub. Remember you heard it here first.

I see a lot of arm chair quarterbacks trying to play in a game they are not qualified for. How about everyone just wait until the District Attorney's Office finishes with their investigation and the results are made public. Then everyone can form opinions based on fact and not suppositions.

Colonel Marano not only has the right to express his opinion but the duty to support a Marine under his command until this Marine is proven guilty!
I have always supported the Marines at Camp Pendleton but have also supported our law enforcement officers. To condemn the Marine or call law enforcement officers bad names is inappropriate!
You can bet there are a lot of veterans from all branches of military service that are extremely upset with the death of Sergeant Loggins! Here in Rancho Santa Margarita there are many active and former Marines, Many veterans are members of the VFW, AmVets and the American Legion who are watching this extremely closely!
We want the total truth!

I love how people keep saying wait for the facts to come out before you make decisions. Its funny that you think they are going to just open everything up to you and say yes take a look at the full video we have nothing to hide here are our results.

In the time everyone has waited they just received twisted stories. Leaves you confident that the "final report" will shine the "truth".

I also like how Adam Townsend and his staff point out they were the first to disclose a story when people say there are updates. Its funny i thought once another site had info Patch didn't I came back to pass word and Patch had it on the home page already. THANKS! Adam and the rest of the team for staying on top of this story.

The marine was black, in San Clemente. Right there you have more than half the story.

Of course you would NEVER EVER EVER hear that fact used as any excuse, since it would be a clear civil rights violation.

Honestly, does anyone believe this had nothing to do with it? If he had been a blue eyed, blonde haired white male, his actions would not have felt "suspicious," nor would the cop have perceived DANGER to the children.

Cop + Black Man + South O.C. = Shoot First, Ask Questions Later. They just never counted on him being a respected United States Marine. If they could trash him, and call him a drug abuser, etc., they would.....but he was a good guy overall, so they can't, and will use whatever they can to BLAME him. It's hard to contradict, since the guy is dead now, and the only other Non-Pig witnesses, were the children, and the cops will discount and bend their statements to suit their own case.

Patrick Rodgers read my mind. I think you all are jumping the gun as the officer MAY have done in this case.

CriticalThinkerinFV were you trying to type " as the officer MAY have done RIGHT in this case." ?
Look subconsciously you know this case smells way to stinky that you couldnt even type "Right" in the same sentence as "the officer May have done".

i'm not sure of the count, but lately it seems like the police have killed more people than the criminals..there are an awful lot of "officer involved shootings" . To be completely honest..I am very afraid of the Police Force right now. It scares me to death to think I might get stopped..and not hear or do everything an officer says...and pay for that with my life...think about it...

This is a cover up! Deputy murderer needs to be stripped of his badge and thrown in jail - for life. Disgusting lies and laughable stories, absurd children are running the PR campaign at the OCSD. What a crock!! Damn the evil swines.

This story does not add up. The Marine crashes through a gate with his kids in the car, parks vehicle, gets out and "walks away" from an armed police officer who is commanding him to stop. 1. Marines are trained to obey orders from lawful authority. 2. Where did he go? 3. If the officer's primary concern was the children why not take the kids out of the vehicle or disable the Marine's vehicle by blocking it with his cruiser. There were many things short of killing that could and should have been done here. This does not sound like a case where deadly force was warranted and if the Marine had done this in Iraq he would be facing a Court Martial.

Reeks of coverup! But like the kelly thomas case, this too will blow up when the untainted truth comes out. I commend Col. Marano for having the guts and balls to speak out. Sgt. Loggins DID NOT deserve to die the way he did and definitely NOT in front of his children. The police say his daughter said he was acting irrational that morning? Maybe he was running late and upset at himself. I'm a maniac biotch when i'm running late but i don't deserve to die for it. Justice for Manny is what we demand and what he and his family deserve! People, do not let this be swept under the carpet like Manny didn't matter. He mattered to his fellow marines and especially to his wife and three kids...one of whom will grow up never knowing their dad. I know several local police and not all cops are bad. Just takes one bad apple to spoil it for the rest. Stop the insanity of cops hiding behind their badge.

I pray that in the end they don't really try saying Sgt Loggins brought his own death upon himself. Its funny, people who support the deputy; how can you actually say its ok to take a LIFE for not listening?

I guess Marines are only trained to follow orders from other Marines, not civilian law enforcement. I guess you guys all think you're above the law and are exempt from orders by civilian law enforcement! That explains the death of the four jackasses in Dana Point. You need to keep your men under control! If they're going to drive drunk - let them do it at Pendleton, and endanger the lives of fellow Marines-NOT CIVILIANS! I thought you guys are supposed to protect the citizens of this country, not endanger us!

YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

@ sc resident who tinkled in your cornflakes this morning? How dare you call those marines who died in that accident jackasses. Their probably the same marines that put their lives on the line to keep narrowed people like yourself free. shame! Semper Fi. God bless our military!

Lol sc resident wow you really that bored sorry to have your life, that you feel stirring up dirt will bring you amusement. you obviously know there's a lot of marines posting on here. it shouldn't matter if manny was a marine or not. death for not listening not make sense for anyone even u. yes people have rights in this country, like you are using pretending you are a tough guy over the internet, you know your balls not be that big if you're in person talking

your right being a marine had nothing to do with
lucky for the victim he has good company
anybody else would be swept under the ocsd rug

Shocking and disturbing. This deserves a full outside investigation by the US attorneys office. This has a very bad smell to it. Citizens should avoid visiting, shopping, dining or doing business in San Clemente until satisfactory answers are forth coming from the authorities.
D. Thomas MD

This Marine was killed by the deputy who had no justification to use deadly force. Black or white, this deputy killed this Marine for no reason other than he was afraid, afraid of this Marine. Take the kids from the vehicle? Nope, Keep him from re-entering the vehicle, nope. Then why, why was allowed to get into the car. Didn't the news media say "other deputies had responded"? Where they? Were they hiding as well? Please ask the FBI to come in and investigate this..the DA will cover it up, no doubt in my mind at all. Semper Fi and go with God Sgt. Loggins.

As a retired LEO I must say this doesn't look good at all. However, we live in a society where we are questioned for actions as well as non actions. Had the Sgt been truly having problems and was allowed to drive away and say, drove his vehicle into the ocean in that area, and killed his daughters, we would be questioning the officers for not stopping him when they had the chance. It's a bad situation all around, no winners in this one.

Colonel Marano: THANK YOU for speaking up and adressing this terrible event and the spin a union is putting on the murder of an unarmed father. You have more support in the community than you will ever know. A trigger happy man took another man's life in front of his daughters. There certainly was another solution. Pulling the trigger is ALWAYS the last choice.

Thank you, Ted. My feelings precisely. Does anyone know if NCIS is participating in the investigation or conducting conducting its own parallel investigation? Very different.

Killiing a National Gurd on any disarm position is a shame, these actions of unjustifications must be brought to the Tribunals, we can not allow these wrong doing to our service patriot personal. The DA. Dept. Must Act Homest and Neutral Conducting this Loggins case matter. Thanks.

As a medically retired marine wounded in combat and living in las Vegas,nv. I'm familiar with the metro police dept. Here and what they have been allowed to get away with by killing unarmed civilans. in the most recent incident here involving a former soldier who was killed with auto. Rifle fire because he would not exit his car. Justice dept.p Refused to investigate. This killing of the marine is just another example of poor police training, a willingness to shoot first and corrupt officals who look the other way and cover for police .

Weed out bad cops....we have a number of good ones who respect human life.
Semper fi

Did the Marine have a Gun? Did he even have a knife?
Serves his country to be shot down like a dog in the streets.
Shooting an unarmed man in the back hardly sounds like protecting and serving..
I will not be surprised if Marines pay this officer a visit..
Maybe not now but definitely later...

I forgot to add...Being killed in front of your daughters...shot in the back by an police instructor anxious to use his weapon and anxious to gain some street cred from his collegues...is hardly the life & legacy this marine deserved but is rather strange irony in that this marine went to war to protect the freedoms & liberties exercised by greedy bankers anxious to loot the American coffers; peoples homes, property legacy, while paying the service men (servants, slaves) a fools gold (paper backed by a federal reserve note that is not federal & has no reserves) to police, kill eachother & citizens out in the streets (under the illusion of inclusion) while the 1% get rich at the peoples expense. Delicious irony

What a tragedy all the way around. Unless you are the most cynical person on the planet, you have to know that the officer involved will have to live with this moment for the rest of his life. The Loggins Family is forever changed. Three kids will not have a father.

I know that there are many out there who automatically blame the "facist cops" in these cases, but our officers face situations that none of us can even imagine. These officers couldn't know what we know now and hindsight is 20-20, but imagine if the officers did not act and Loggins had gotten into his vehicle and a chase ensued and the car crashes and Loggins and his kids are killed? Would we be hearing cries that the officers should have acted sooner to prevent a tragedy?

My biggest problem with this whole issue is that our officers seemed to be ill-equipped with less than lethal force weapons such as tasers, bean bag shotguns, etc. Heck, they could have shot out all four of the tires! With all of the technology available today, why aren't our officers better equipped?

Regardless, a huge tragedy for all involved. My condolences to the Loggins Family, the US Marine Corps and the OCSD. No winners, just losers all the way around.

Please watch your language, per Patch policy.

It's always the Mexican cops that's fearing for their life first. Ask a city cop or a sheriff deputy why they aren't working for the fed's. Because they're too dumb to get a job in the federal government. I studied Criminology and was an officer in the Army National Guard in my early 20's. Dealing with city cops and sheriff deputies was like dealing with blue collar criminals. They gave me a headache and still do.

another stupid chickenshit cop with no balls.