Buddhist Monks Continue Hunger Protest Against Nuclear Plant

Buddhist monks from Seattle are stationed on the knoll next to the San Clemente Pier for a week, fasting and praying.

Four Buddhist monks have set up shop on the knoll overlooking the San Clemente Pier, and Monday they were in the midst of the third day of their six-day fast to protest the restart of the San Onofre Nuclear Power Plant.

"I advocated from the very first to do it here," said Brother Senji Kanaeda of the Nipponzan Myohoji temple in Seattle. "I'm Japanese, and I want to make sure [an accident like the Fukushima nuclear disaster] never happens again. We have a duty to save our mother earth."

Gary Headrick, leader of San Clemente Green, is also participating in the fast.

"These guys are amazing ― what they'll put themselves through to prove a point," he said.

Kanaeda said his Buddhist faith made it imperative that he and other followers do what they can to end nuclear power.

"Life is most sacred," he said. "Everyone has a duty and hope to keep the safety of the world for our children. Jesus Christ had the same idea, I believe."

Tuesday, the monks will break the fast, and resume it again until Friday, according to their itinerary. Next week, they'll be moving their protest north to the Diablo Canyon nuclear power plant.

They will also be walking and praying in San Luis Obispo as well.

Friday, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission held a public meeting with plant officials and engineers during which the Southern California Edison executives attempted to convince regulators they had a safe plan to restart a portion of the troubled plant, which has been shuttered since January because of a radioactive steam leak.

The leak revealed the plant's steam generators were riddled with

Read about the science behind the cause of the leak and plan to restart here.

LN Mark December 05, 2012 at 12:49 AM
Not a big fan of probability and statistics, are you Jon? I think your decimal place is four or five places too far to the right. Oh, but that doesn't serve your opinion, so it must not matter...
Jon Sherman December 05, 2012 at 01:45 AM
The question Charles posed was: "What's the probability these monks' activities will have any bearing on how SONGS plays out?" Any bearing? As I stated, there is a 100% probability that it will have "an effect". I do not know and did not state the % of effect it will have. So not only is my decimal point correct, but my point about the interconnectedness of everything as well. Unless you want to deny the truth of basic ecology as well as quantum physics.
Rose Pennington December 05, 2012 at 02:52 AM
LN Mark Viable as defined by Websters Dictionary lay.google.com vi·a·ble adjective \ˈvī-ə-bəl\ Definition of VIABLE 1 : capable of living; especially : having attained such form and development as to be normally capable of surviving outside the mother's womb <a viable fetus> 2 : capable of growing or developing <viable seeds> <viable eggs> 3 a : capable of working, functioning, or developing adequately <viable alternatives> b : capable of existence and development as an independent unit <the colony is now a viable state> c (1) : having a reasonable chance of succeeding <a viable candidate> (2) : financially sustainable <a viable enterprise> Meaning to me , Solar, Wind and Ocean wave energy to name a few. And yes there will always be those who disagree we all are entitled to our opinions, the beauty of free speech. I clearly have a different opinion than you do. I hope this answers your question
Jay Berman December 05, 2012 at 03:13 AM
Solar, wind and wave are variable, not constant, the load (electric being used) is constant. Solar, Wind and Wave cannot be used as baseline generation, there must be equal or more available electricity on the grid than what is being used at any particular moment. AC current cannot be saved, it must be used when generated. The "smart" grid is about one thing, being able to shut you off or possibly control your appliances and usage in an instant when generation drops .. wind / solar / wave require conventional peaker plants up and available ... today, we have nuclear, hydro, natural gas and coal for most of our 7/24 baseline needs. SONGS being down puts our region at severe risk ... bring up unit 3 at 70% .... we need that generation .. no electricity means no food, no water or sewage pumping ... curtailments will wreck our already feeble economy ... fire that puppy up .... get those new generators in ...
Maeve Mcdonough December 05, 2012 at 05:34 AM
Jay, turns out that nuclear power is not constant either. Ten months with no power from San Onofre due to horribly flawed steam generators does not engender faith in nuclear power as a means to supply the Smart Grid.
Nanci Oechsle December 05, 2012 at 06:19 AM
Rooftop solar..why is Germany leading the world in this and not us? We CAN do without nuclear power.
Jay Berman December 05, 2012 at 08:13 AM
Germany is failing ... so is Spain ... it just doesn't work ... http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/project_syndicate/2012/02/why_germany_is_phasing_out_its_solar_power_subsidies_.html If you want to be energy independent ,, do it right .. get off the grid ... put a properly rated PV system on your roof .. have a bank of batteries and a backup natural gas fired generator .. get off the grid .. you will always have to have that generator fire up ... so will it be if solar and wind is tried as a baseline electric mode .... it just cant work ... solar and wind is not constant .. but the demand is ...
Jay Berman December 05, 2012 at 05:55 PM
That is quite short sighted ... we have over 100 nuclear plants operating reliably and safely in the US today ... all of our aircraft carriers and submarines are nuclear powered. It is safe, clean and reliable. Mitsubishi blew it with these steam generators - they need to be replaced ... SONGS has been producing electricity since 1967 ....
Jay Berman December 05, 2012 at 06:00 PM
I'm afraid you are mistaken ... Germany's solar has been a failure http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/project_syndicate/2012/02/why_germany_is_phasing_out_its_solar_power_subsidies_.html Spain is reeling because of it's push for green energy ... and we here in the US are doing the same exact thing expecting different results ... that is insanity ... http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/finance/2011/november/spains-green-disaster-a-lesson-for-america/
LN Mark December 06, 2012 at 07:14 PM
"Just as there's a 100% probability that the toxic waste and poisonous radiation from SONGS will have an effect on current and future generations." That's what you wrote and it is theoretically, practically, and mathematically false.
LN Mark December 06, 2012 at 07:27 PM
It does. But my interpretation of "viable" includes the economics. Yes, solar works just fine, but every day the sun goes down. That makes it not a viable alternative. Oh, you can store the power during the day, and molten salt seems to be the leading alternative there. But it's not there today. It's not economically "viable". Wind? Where the wind is, we don't have "viable" transmission systems in place, and no one is putting up the $billions required to get it, despite "the Pickens plan". Ocean? Yes, there is energy out there, and the university where I got my engineering degree is a leader in this area of research. But there are reasons there are zero large ocean energy generating plants. It's not "viable". There is a big difference between "possible" and "viable". Think about phrases from your definition: capable of living capable of surviving capable of growing capable of working, functioning, or developing adequately capable of existence and development as an independent unit having a reasonable chance of succeeding Are any of these true when they are not economically feasible? My answer is "no", which makes none of them viable as an alternative to 24/7 nuclear. Only as additions and alternatives to augment a 24/7 generation system that today must include Nat Gas and in my opinion should also include nuclear as the only clean 24/7 alternative.
LN Mark December 06, 2012 at 08:28 PM
Great articles, Jay. Think this crowd will read them? :)
Jay Berman December 06, 2012 at 08:36 PM
Probably not as facts mean nothing ... The only known deaths from a nuclear accident (that I know of) has been Chernobyl - and that can't happen here. Those soviet built graphite mediated, uncontained reactors were an accident waiting to happen .. they were also operated by poorly trained personnel ... the Soviets built garbage ... the probability of a catastrophic failure at SONGS is truly miniscule .. the reactors at SONGS have remarkable safety systems ... even a failsafe gravity fed emergency cooling system if all other systems fail ... reinforced concrete containments ... it is insanity that we don't build more plants, gas or nuclear and follow Europe into this green abyss ...
Jon Sherman December 06, 2012 at 09:23 PM
Again, LN Mark, I did not state how much of an effect the toxic waste and poisonous radiation from SONGS will have on current and future generations, I simply stated it will have AN effect and that there is 100% probability of that, since we live in a world where everything is interconnected. Thank you for letting me make my point again. Feel free anytime to disprove it, if you can.
Mike F December 06, 2012 at 11:06 PM
Jay, The Democrats are closing coal powered, nuclear powered, petroleum powered, and hydro powered electricity generating plants. Unit #1 of San Onofre has already been closed. Even excepting a heavy demand use like aluminum, reasonable generation to run businesses, heat or cool and light residences, and the many other needed affordable and reliable uses of electricity must be available for a community to operate, be productive, and promote safety. If efficient and safe advanced technology thorium reactors were built, then who would operate them; Southern California Edison has shown that they would not and have substituted their demand that we use less electricity than is reasonable and at prices that are unreasonable. Solar and wind are not as available, not as efficient and are intermittent. But if new nuclear units were built, inland of San Onofre and the I-5, they would be well above sea level with below sea level pipe runs to the ocean for sea water. Three two Gigawatt plants running all day every day except if one of the units was off-line for maintenance; a steady level source of electricity for San Diego County and Orange County. An engineer mentioned to me that during times of less than full optimal operating electricity demand the station could produce potable water for the two counties.
Jay Berman December 06, 2012 at 11:12 PM
Mike, you are absolutely correct .... A modern unit 4 should be built with a secondary steam generator for the purpose of desalinating the outbound cooling stream the cost of that water would be basically free .. look at all the nuclear reactors we have in San Diego Harbor .. all the carriers and subs have 2 reactors each .... never a problem, they run for 20 years ... anything goes wrong in a nuclear plant or attached grid the reactors drop their control rods and the reaction stops ....
Mike F December 07, 2012 at 01:57 AM
Jay, A thorium reactor would be cheaper, safer, and more efficient than even uranium. One-ton of thorium has the energy equivalence of two-hundred tons of uranium or three-million five-hundred thousand tons of coal. Thorium does not produce plutonium. A thorium reactor would produce less radioactive waste. Thorium has significantly less radioactivity than uranium; radioactivity of the resulting waste falls to safe levels in hundreds of years rather than tens of thousands of years. Thorium is abundant in the United States. A thorium reactor would not need to be pressurized. Thermal efficiency would increase from 35% for uranium to 50% for thorium. And - no meltdown would occur in a crisis because the fission stoa by default. Time to build a new generation of reactor as it has been four decades since the last reactor.
Jay Berman December 07, 2012 at 02:09 AM
Thorium is a great alternative .... so is the EM2 reactor by General Dynamics ... it uses un reprocessed spent fuel rods .. they still contain 95% of their potential http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2010/feb/24/company-has-plan-for-small-reactors/?page=2#article
Jay Berman December 07, 2012 at 02:09 AM
I think the future will be hydrogen fusion ... they can do it in a lab but not commercially ....
LN Mark December 07, 2012 at 05:55 PM
Nope, you're still missing the point. It is not at all certain that there will be ANY effect on current and future generations. I'd be interested in what effect you think is 100% certain.
Mike F December 07, 2012 at 07:09 PM
Jay, The Democrats are not interested in the future. They are only interested in the present and being in power. To the Democrats life is cheap and some want to be more equal than others, the ruling class, to distance only their lives from being held of little value. Their control of our state means that the family and children, the future, is trumped. What is needed for a productive and healthy future is, at minimum, abundant clean electricity, abundant potable water, abundant academic education, and abundant private-sector entrapreneurship. Not one of these societal basics is available today in California.
Jay Berman December 07, 2012 at 07:20 PM
Mike - California is done .. stick a fork in it ... all the financial tricks have been played out ... more companies are leaving every day - ResMed may be packing up and going to Texas ... I think the state will wind up breaking up ... I don't know if that has ever happened .. but what we have, massive debt, growing shortages of water and electricity by our own hand .. (pumps off for a fish) (relying on solar and wind) .. our tax base is leaving ... such a shame, we have such resources ... such a beautiful state ... Jerry Brown started the decline 35 years ago .. now he's back to finish the job ...
LN Mark December 07, 2012 at 07:24 PM
I disagree. I'm sure the Dems really believe that they have the best solutions. I'm also sure they are wrong.
Jon Sherman December 07, 2012 at 07:27 PM
LN Mark, simply stating my point to be wrong does not prove it so. Even my American education taught me that. Common horse sense informs me that this conversation, as insignificant as it might be, is an effect of SONGS. In Newtonian physics, the entire mass weight of SONGS, due to the force of gravity, has an effect on the ground below. SONGS had and continues to have an effect on the Buddhist monks and many, many others concerned about the ongoing danger it poses to the health of our planet. But if your so sure that it can't be shown SONGS has any effect whatsoever on the world around it, PLEASE advise those advocating for it's restart before the NRC to use that argument!
Jon Sherman December 07, 2012 at 07:45 PM
A Buddhist Prayer We gently caress you, the Earth, our planet and our home. Our vision has brought us closer to you, making us aware of the harm we have done to the life-network upon which we ourselves depend. We are reminded that we have poisoned your waters, your lands, your air. We have filled you with the bones of our dead from war and greed. Your pain is our pain. Touching you gently, we pray that we may become peace-bringers and life-bringers so that our home in its journey around the Sun not become a sterile and lonely place. May this prayer and its power last forever. ~ Sensei Ulrich, Manitoba Buddhist Temple
Jay Berman December 07, 2012 at 08:04 PM
The uranium we use is part of the Earth, a resource for us to use by harvesting its radioactivity and converting it to heat to generate electricity we need to live ... in the past we cut down trees and burned the wood ... some would say that was bad for the Earth too ...
Jon Sherman December 07, 2012 at 08:15 PM
A Catholic Prayer Loving Father and Creator of all we come to you today deeply grateful for your creation. As we look around us we are amazed at the greatness and majesty of all that you have made. Nature around us speaks of your greatness - the vast expanse of the sky, the mountains, trees, lakes and streams speak of your great design. You have given us such beauty in the colors of the rainbow, the beauty of flowers and fields. Words cannot adequately express the magnificence of all you have created. We join in praise with the writer of the psalms when he says, 'O Lord, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth.' May we show our love and reverence to you, our Lord, by caring for all that you have created. We humbly give you praise and thanks.
Mike F December 07, 2012 at 08:43 PM
Glorify God! God placed the lives of His people in the hands of the Egyptians for hundreds of years. The Democratic Party is the Egyptian Empire of California. Study the Holy Bible from God and Glorify God: Genesis 1 - 11. Introduction and Background Genesis 12 - John. The Jewish Testament Acts. The Book of Transition Romans - Philemon. The Christian Testament Hebrews - Revelation. The Completion of the Jewish Testament Stand up for the future.
Jon Sherman December 07, 2012 at 08:51 PM
Old Navajo Chant The mountains, I become part of it, the herbs, the fir tree, I become part of it. The morning mists, the clouds, the gathering waters, I become part of it. The wilderness, the dew drops, the pollen, I become part of it.
Mike F December 08, 2012 at 04:36 PM
In the Register this morning "I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts." Will Rogers (1879-1935) The Navajo was obviouly noting his Intimate familiarty with the area that he made his living in.


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