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Labor Unions, Edison Plan to Counter ‘Loudmouth Protesters’ at NRC Meeting

Dana Point meeting to host panelists on both sides of the nuclear power issue at San Onofre.

Hoping to counter what they call "ignorant" and "loudmouth" critics of San Onofre, a San Bernardino County labor union and its allies plan a show of force at the public Nuclear Regulatory Commission meeting Tuesday, an email to members says.

Jay Rojo, business representative of the Boilermakers Local 92 out of Bloomington—near Fontana—has sent email to members of his union, Edison employees and other unions urging them to converge on the NRC meeting and show their support for the restart plan.

"I attended the San Diego Building Trades meeting last week along with Rep's from Edison, Shaw and the San Onofre Steward," Rojo said in the email, a copy of which was forwarded to Patch by San Clemente Green Head Gary Headrick.

The meeting is hosting a number of panelists on both sides of the nuclear power issue. Like the last meeting, national anti-nuclear groups  plan to show up with residents, holding a press conference on-site in the hour before the meeting.

The Dana Point meeting will provide an opportunity for input on Edison's plan to restart one of its ailing nuclear reactors. The plant has been offline since January because of a radioactive steam leak that subsequently revealed the plant's steam generators were riddled with faulty components.

"They all agreed that they do not want to get bullied or squashed at this meeting by loudmouth protesters and have asked for as many union people as possible to show up to the meeting," Rojo wrote.

"As you should be able to see by the tone of this email that this is a serious matter. It's an effort by the radical small sector of the public that is trying to shut San Onofre down and end that jobsite as a possible source of income for all of us."

Rojo and other union brass were out of the office Tuesday afternoon and were unavailable by phone, according to the desk clerk at Local 92.

The email said the group will meet at the parking lot at the San Onofre Plant at 3 p.m. for a meal, and that Edison will reimburse the unions for any promotional materials they hand out for the meeting.

The NRC meeting itself starts at 6 p.m. Tuesday at the St. Regis Monarch Beach Hotel in Dana Point.

Ed Sorrels October 11, 2012 at 06:43 AM
Sadly the truth, But I don't find it funny, This is life altering serious stuff and you are right about one thing, there is someone responsiable and we need to find out just who and do something about it if possiable otherwise just fire him or her !
San Juan October 12, 2012 at 05:39 AM
Jay, if Sano were to get hit by a psunami, like the one in Japan. Brother I've got to tell you that if there were 2000 employees on site at the time, unless you were on the 70' Turbine deck or the bluffs, there would easily be a 90% loss of souls. There is no way in the world that little cut out in the bluffs, I call the bathub, could survive. Wouldn't need to worry about shutting it down, there wouldn't be anyone left to do it.
Koolblues October 12, 2012 at 05:44 AM
Everything has a shelf life....is the risk worth the price??
Martha Sullivan October 12, 2012 at 01:42 PM
Jay Berman, you have a number of facts wrong, the most obvious being that the power output of San Onofre nuke plant is 2200 MW, 1100 MW for each Unit. Edison announced last month that is is putting Unit 3's fuel rods into storage, it is offline indefinitely and probably permanently. Edison proposed late last week to re-start Unit 2 at maximum 70% capacity -- or 35% of SanO's original capacity, for which ratepayers have paid several billion dollars -- $1 Billion just in the last few years to replace the Steam Generators that have failed. WHEN do you stop throwing good money after bad?
Martha Sullivan October 12, 2012 at 01:46 PM
California is now generating 1,255 MW of electricity from 122,516 rooftops (more than one of the San Onofre Units). Rooftop solar installation can be done in a matter of weeks, not the years that power plant construction requires. The CA Air Resources Board estimated in June 2010 that 150 permanent jobs are created for each 100 megawatt (MW) of local solar added. As an indication of the growth potential of this job sector, in San Diego County, we have only installed 2% (or 140 MW) of rooftop and parking lot capacity -- this is a GROWTH industry! SO CAL EDISON: Step Up and provide your loyal San Onofre employees with the opportunity to transition to a Job GROWTH sector, rather than Laying Them Off!
Jay Berman October 12, 2012 at 03:46 PM
Rooftop solar is part time and not reliable, as a matter of fact, you still need conventional power at the ready - warmed up ready to start if you get some cloud cover ... they don't work every day, we need reliable 7/24 electric generation. If you want solar on your house, great, go for it, pay for it ... maintain it ... and replace it in about 20 years ... we are headed to one hell of an electric shortage unless we get those reactors back on line or start building conventional gas fired combined cycle plants ... here, in the 21st century, we face blackouts ... whats wrong with this picture ?
Jay Berman October 12, 2012 at 03:51 PM
My mistake, you are correct, 1100Mw each ... the reactors and all other systems are fine, Mitsubishi screwed up these generators, they need to replace them. I believe the steam generator replacement was about $650m not $1B .. Unit 3 is is the one that the generator (s) failed, it will not be restarting soon, removing and storing the fuel rods would be prudent, I believe it was just refueled anyway. Unit 2 generators were slightly different and did not show as much damage, they did not leak. Bringing it back online to 70% so there is no vibration makes sense ... shutting down the plant with no replacement does not ....
Jay Berman October 12, 2012 at 04:03 PM
I guess that applies to all the natural gas and petroleum product pipelines that run under us too ... are they worth the risk ? I mean people got killed and injured ... refineried explode, have fires and kill people .. people die in coal mines ... but no one has ever died in the production of nuclear energy with the exception of Chernobyl which were faulty sovient designs, uncontained, graphite mediated and run by untrained operators ... Do you throw away your car if it needs a new starter ?
Jay Berman October 12, 2012 at 04:08 PM
First, has there ever been a tsunami of anything more than a few feet there ? Has there ever been a 9+ quake here ? In California ? There are no faults offshore capable of generating that sort of quake or Tsunami .. the plant is on a 30' seawall ... the design is different that the plants in Japan, these are fully contained ... The plants in Japan did not have an emergency cooling system that did not require power, SONGS has gravity fed cooling in the event all other backup systems fail ..
San Juan October 12, 2012 at 05:38 PM
Dear Jay, have you seen the footage of the psunami in Japan? I believe in the 30's there was a psunami that brought down the HB Pier. That 30' seawall your talking about will be no match for a condition resembling that of Japan or the one in Indonesia. If I'm not mistaken, you don't have to be sitting on top of a fault to experience a disaster like that. If there is no fear of something as catastrophic as "The Big One", then why is everyone preparing for it? I'm in the power industry and for one know how important power generation is, to not just us, but the world, and I don't necissarily dislike Nuclear Power, (I dislike the Management of it, i.e. SCE), but nuclear power generation shouldn't be in such close proximity to the public. I'd rather see them in the middle of the desert to be honest with you.
San Juan October 12, 2012 at 05:51 PM
Jay, Power production in the state of California, Co-gens (everywhere), Methane fired Boilers (Coyote Canyon in Newport), Fossil Fuel (everywhere) includes Natural Gas, Photo cell (Capistrano Beach Senior Living Facility, Orange County Airport) and everywhere, Mirror concentrated (right outside of Las Vegas in California and Daggot), Wind (Palm Springs), Hydro electric (anywhere and everywhere there is a good flow of water like Kern County and Bishop), Bio Mass (Delano), Co Gens (Anaheim, Naval Station in Coranado, El Centro), Geo Thermal (Imperial County). If we can send a vehicle to Mars (MARS Rover) and run it on solar then I think we can figure out an alternative to power sources instead of our beloved SanO. Peace Brother
Jay Berman October 12, 2012 at 05:59 PM
San Juan, your spelling is terrible ... tsunami ... We have dozens of powerful nuclear reactors onboard navy subs and carriers in San Diego all the time ... The 50 year old USS Enterprise, our first nuclear carrier has 8 reactors ... most subs and carriers have 2 .. never an accident ... the only accident we have had was the one at 3 mile island over 30 years ago, no one was hurt or killed .. it was caused by compounded errors that can't happen today. San Onofre started operation with unit 1 back in 1968 ... no one killed, 44 years of safe, clean electricity ... there were some management problems but I believe they were corrected ... a tsunami will not take out those containment domes .. in Japan, the reactors were in buildings, they actually survived, reactors lost feed water, backup generators were badly damaged, couldn't keep the cores cool .. hydrogen accumulated and exploded .. they did not have a gravity fed cooling system like San Onofre ... If you are so afraid of a problem, I would suggest you leave the area ..
Jay Berman October 12, 2012 at 06:04 PM
We need full time, local baseline 7/24 electric production, you cannot keep importing it over fire and earthquake faults plus consider the line loss moving electric over long distances. Electricity should be generated close to where it is used (load) ... it is almost impossible to build a natural gas fired combined cycle plant anymore ... solar and wind are part time and not reliable, you need to have peaker plants up and available to keep the grid stable. Unless SONGS comes back on line, get ready for curtailments because there will be no other plants built expecially with AB32 being implemented next month ... I have an emergency battery bank and I also have a flex fuel generator, I'll be just fine .. I was during that last blackout .. and with this I'm leaving the thread ...
San Juan October 12, 2012 at 06:08 PM
Jay, you just had to get on my spelling didn't you, as far as leaving the area...I don't think I'll have to now that Sano is going to be Demolished, how's my spelling now? Get smart with someone else because my Labor brothers and sisters are gonna make a ton of cash when that place comes down and you'll still be writing on the San Clemente Dispatch. We're done Amigo, adios
CaptD October 13, 2012 at 03:54 PM
Guess you did not get the Memo: CA now has a 40% ENERGY SURPLUS (more than we ever need) even without EITHER San Onofre or El Diablo being used with more clean and safe Solar (of all flavors) being added daily! Any restart/testing would only GIFT SCE and SDG&E $1.2 Billion Dollars!
CaptD October 13, 2012 at 03:55 PM
Anybody know how SoCal would pay for a Trillion Dollar Eco-Disaster?
CaptD October 13, 2012 at 03:56 PM
Great comment! If the Union was smarter, they would have offered food, Tee shirts and transportation for everybody, making it easy to attend this meeting... I'm sure everyone wants a safe work place and if, as the data now seems to indicate, the SCE designed faulty RSG's are BOTH UNSAFE then why RISK exposing Union workers or anybody else to a potential Trillion Dollar Eco-Disaster (like Fukushima) here in SoCal!
CaptD October 13, 2012 at 03:58 PM
Great comment! Salute to your taking a stand when most other hide ... Tip of the Hat!
CaptD October 13, 2012 at 03:59 PM
To Jay B. Ha Ha Ha Oh really? You have Devine knowledge are are you just hoping like all the Japanese Experts were doing before 3/11/11?
CaptD October 13, 2012 at 04:00 PM
Great Comment, Don't STOP!
CaptD October 13, 2012 at 04:00 PM
At Jay B. FACT: Nature can destroy any land based nuclear reactor, any place anytime 24/7/365! Ask The Japanese!
CaptD October 13, 2012 at 04:03 PM
SCE's RSG designers are THE guilty party and the truth will come out when the restart Plan background documentation is released... Bet on it... The RSG's were built to their exact spec's... by MHI in Japan...
CaptD October 13, 2012 at 04:07 PM
At Jay B SanO is SO LUCKY that the RSG tubing was discovered to be so poorly designed so soon or SoCal could have easily had an INEA nuclear EVEN WITHOUT A BIG QUAKE: From the DAB Safety Team: Southern Californians were very lucky this time, because a potentially serious nuclear accident in progress was stopped by the swift and intelligent actions of Mr. Flynn and his Operating Crew because of high radiation alarms, which luckily happened to be maintained and in good working condition! When tested later in March 2012, 8 steam generator tubes (wear range 72-100%, length of wear 23-34 inches) in the newly replaced San Onofre Unit 3 Replacement Steam Generator (RSG) E-088 failed their pressure testing and therefore were plugged, but hundreds more tubes were also plugged due to tube-to tube wears. It is important to note: SCE has now plugged 3.7 times more steam generator tubes (in both newly installed RSG units) at San Onofre have been plugged, than at all the other US nuclear power plants combined
CaptD October 13, 2012 at 04:08 PM
At Jay Guess you did not get the Memo: CA now has a 40% ENERGY SURPLUS (more than we ever need) even without EITHER San Onofre or El Diablo being used with more clean and safe Solar (of all flavors) being added daily! Any restart/testing would only GIFT SCE and SDG&E $1.2 Billion Dollars!
CaptD October 13, 2012 at 04:11 PM
Beware paid bloggers fronting for SCE and or the Nuclear Industry... If anyone posts silly comment, take a second and see what their other comments are like and how long they have been posting, especially if they fail to porvide links to back up their claims... SoCal cannot afford to have a RISKY Reactor Restart, when we already have a 40% energy SURPLUS with more safe and clean non risky nuclear coming on line daily!
CaptD October 13, 2012 at 04:13 PM
Just wait until SCE makes public all its technical documents having to do with their designs and their specific restart investigations of their poorly designed replacement steam generators to the NRC, then Management heads will start to roll at SCE, and I'm not talking "regular" Union Workers...
CaptD October 14, 2012 at 11:29 PM
Best to both you and your Labor brothers and sisters!
CaptD October 14, 2012 at 11:38 PM
I hope the Patch will ask all our SoCal Leaders "on the record" who has taken money from SCE and or SDG&E and tell us what they find out! I've heard through the grapevine that they have applied enormous pressure on SoCal's MSM to lay off this 1.2 Billion Dollar story! Salute to the Patch for covering this story when most others choose not to! It is a 1.2 Billion Dollar Story, yet most of the MSM is remaining quiet! What we all need to do is ask the CPUC when do we get our REBATES? Call: 1-800-649-7570 Write: CPUC Consumer Affairs 505 Van Ness Avenue San Francisco, CA 94102 Electronic: http://www.cpuc.ca.gov/PUC/CEC/e_complaint/
CaptD October 14, 2012 at 11:42 PM
The DAB Safety Team's Update: 10-14-12, SCE’s Replacement Steam Generator $680 Million Debacle http://decommission.sanonofre.com/
CaptD October 15, 2012 at 12:27 AM
√ this one out: http://www.veteranstoday.com/?p=135767 and this one: http://beforeitsnews.com/story/2385/396/9_11_Flight_93_-_Banned_Footage_Video.html

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