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Shop 'Til You Drop at Marblehead—In Your Dreams!

Tom Barnes expresses skepticism about plans for an outlet mall at the Marblehead site.

As we move further into the deleveraging economy of the “Great Correction,” the issue of who is going to shop at Plaza San Clemente (the outlet mall planned for ) when, and if it is built, needs to be addressed.

Did this project make sense, even in a booming economy, to take part of 247 acres of prime ocean view land and put an outlet mall on it? It makes you wonder.

Outlet malls are supposed to go in remote locations like Cabazon and Camarillo, not prime ocean view land. With the real unemployment at about 17 percent and nearly everyone else except the uber rich cutting back, who is going to buy the goods and services the Marblehead outlet shops will produce?

SunCal, the primary developer of Marblehead, has recently emerged to once again become a major California property owner. Its latest plan is to reclaim bankrupt properties it once owned, like the 247 acre Marblehead project, Plaza San Clemente.

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Standing in SunCal’s way is the Lehman Brothers court-appointed bankruptcy trustee, who may squelch the deal.

But with SunCal’s recent acquisitions of property in California, don’t count the land acquisition giant out. 

One thing is certain: the end result will be a windfall for the attorneys who argue the case in court.

While all of these machinations play out, there is some movement on the infrastructure promised to the city of San Clemente as construction of the bridge has resumed. The Pico improvement is near completion and things are looking up for the city.

With Target nearing completion, Walmart chugging along, nearby Costco and Smart & Final one mile from San Clemente’s city limit, how much need is there for the proposed 120 stores at the Marblehead Outlet? Just what will these stores be, and when will they be ready?

Craig Realty Group, the developer of the center, once said construction should begin late summer 2011 (isn’t that now?) with an anticipated opening in the late fall/early winter of  2012.  Of course waiting for this to happen is like Waiting for Godot in the Samuel Beckett play.

As for the stores themselves, Plaza San Clemente will contain upscale retail shops and restaurants. With consumer spending in the doldrums and likely to remain there for a long time, it’s silly to assume that these posh stores will lure customers away from Target, Walmart, et. al. who needs more?

Craig Realty calls Plaza San Clemente a destination retail and entertainment center with “breathtaking ocean views, lush landscaping and unique water features.”

“A mixture of dinner houses and casual dining, a boutique hotel with visitor and conference facilities, and a blend of neighborhood services,” will complement the outlet and retail stores in the 650,000 square foot project.

Sounds good but it is based on the dubious premise of “if you build it, they will they come.” This Field of Dreams scenario is truly, to mix metaphors and quote Joe Hill, a pie-in-the-sky promise.  

Valet parking will be offered during peak shopping periods. Valet parking in San Clemente is an anachronism in 2011.

Craig Realty thinks it is 2005 and that San Clemente is Newport Beach. Wrong. The most sensible plan for the next 20 years for most of the public is to survive.

The days of "he who dies with the most toys wins," are over. Two generations of Americans have lived beyond their means. Wages have remained flat for the last four decades while purchases and debt skyrocketed. A recent USA Today article reported that the total of America's debts and unfunded obligations increased by $5.3 trillion last year and now stands at $534,000 per household.

With a debt like that it is no time to go to the Mall.  

Furthermore, the type of stores Plaza San Clemente will host, according to the Craig Realty website is, “a wide variety of nationally recognized designer brand outlet stores offering apparel and accessories typically featured in ads of magazines such as Allure, In-Style, Vanity Fair and Lucky.”

Wow! Just the type of goods that do not appeal to our blue-collar roots. Those in San Clemente who want to create a Newport Beach “vibe” just don’t get it. We welcome Target but eschew pricey “designer brands.” We are a Spanish Village by the sea, not a shopping Mecca. 

Craig Realty’s assertion that Phase I is currently over 75 percent “committed” is ludicrous.  Jancee Aellig, leasing executive for Craig Realty Group, claims, “To date, leases have been signed with 31 tenants and another 9 are in lease negotiations ... Also, the landlord is in negotiations with an additional 30 tenants which account for 100 percent of the Phase 1 retail portion.”

Aellig declined to name the tenants that have signed leases. Now we have mythical tenants in a non-existent outlet mall. What fantasy is next?

Where does all of this leave San Clemente? A financier in bankruptcy, a developer trying to finagle a 45-percent discount on price, another developer promising leases but not naming lessees—sounds like “humbug” to me.

In short, it is a long way to an outlet mall in San Clemente and all those anticipated tax revenues that were supposed to come with it.   

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Sicmarc May 9, 2013 at 07:35 pm
Bring back the bowling alley!
Tom Barnes May 9, 2013 at 03:05 pm
Linda, The hypocrisy of opposing subsidies for Spizzirri and the Miramar after you and your companyRead More had the city spend a million on your LAB project is almost laughable. You also accepted an indirect subsidy from the city in the form of parking concessions for the Casino. The irony of big business opposing subsidies for others while accepting them for themselves is long remembered by San Clemente residents. Some consistency would be refreshing.
Lindsey Hanson May 8, 2013 at 03:31 pm
Linda you were 100% okay with such subsidies when they were offered to you. Heck you sued the cityRead More after the residents shut your project down before you could reap the benefits of the millions in subsidies you were set to gain. If you're banking on the residents of San Clemente forgetting your personal and direct involvement in the very same practices you can grantee I'll help remind them. See the thing is I agree with you about giving handouts to folks like YOU and Marc Spizzirri. It's DEAD wrong. The very reason I fought so hard to shut down YOUR PDN. So now that we all remember your involvement in the very same kinds of activities you are protesting we can clearly see why you are upset. You've done such a nice job with the Casino. It IS unfair if they grant subsidies to Mr. Spizzirri after denying you. That in itself is enough reason to be upset and a legitimate reason to protest. But, you cannot deny it is part of your beef with the situation.
CC May 1, 2013 at 11:46 am
Frank Mitchell has the correct FACTUAL not emotional response. Ann D to call yourself a "lovingRead More citizen" and name someone a bigot in the same paragraph shows your true colors. If you truly feel that having non-english speaking children is not a burden on our school system then I suggest you go volunteer in a local elementary school on a weekly basis as I have done then you would be a true "loving citizen"
Ann D May 1, 2013 at 01:58 am
It's just a difference of opinion on where tax dollars should be spent. As a taxpayer I feel myRead More hefty taxes are better served educating children that will grow up into productive adults--"alien" or not they are a hard working people group. We spend far too much on wars and such...spend money on investing in people and guess what I am also fine with the free lunch program. :-) My tax dollars, my vote, money where my heart is. It's fine your heart or passion lies where it does...that's what makes America so great and makes so many people want to come here. Guess what? Your relatives came here too so "alien" status is a little more close to home than you think perhaps.
tiny May 1, 2013 at 12:41 am
Ann D, Williams alien ship may be a u-boat with pariscope up.
lily May 6, 2013 at 06:51 pm
Vikki yes I agree, more bully breed owners should be out there advocating for the breed. ThereRead More are wonderful groups that do just that, but we need more.
PK May 6, 2013 at 05:22 pm
Bottom line is that any animal that is abused or trained to be aggressive by low life owners will beRead More a threat to people and other animals. You cannot blame the animal for how it is treated. It is the owners who brutalize breeds to become this way. I have known some pit bull's that have been treated well, with love and care, and they are the nicest most loyal animals out there. Owners and breeders are responsible.
Vikki Foley Boyd May 6, 2013 at 02:10 pm
Lilly, I think we are saying the same thing. You can't make broad statements about any group.Read More I would never use the word "all" but you can identify 'trends' and draw a correlation between criminals and their choices, i.e., 'generally', drug dealers will own guns. People are ignoramuses if they said to your face that you must be a drug dealer because of your breed. The rescue people think I'm a pretentious highbrow because I will only own a purebred AKC dog. I could care less. They are entitled to their opinion. It's my money and my training time that I put into my dog. Like I said , pitbull owners need to get out there in the dog sports world like Jen. Once the public see's more of these dogs doing amazing work with their responsible handlers, this will show the breed in a more positive light. Instead they sit on chat rooms and complain how they are discriminated against. AKC now allows mixed breed and non-AKC registered dogs to compete in obedience. This is not an expensive sport and can be very rewarding for both dog and handler.
Victoria Carll May 1, 2013 at 02:32 am
Alex, I am so proud of you! Great job. We love you. Aunt Victoria
Tom Scott April 30, 2013 at 03:37 pm
Best wishes and congratulations, Alex! From Tom Scott and your Camino Real Playhouse friends.