Dead Marine's Daughters Unlawfully Held, Isolated After Shooting, Family Alleges

According to a claim against the Orange County Sheriff's Department on behalf of the family of Sgt. Manuel Loggins, the Marine was shot multiple times.

After a sheriff's deputy shot and killed their unarmed father as they watched, the two young daughters of Marine Sgt. Manuel Loggins were falsely imprisoned and isolated by police for 13 hours before they were released to their family, according to a claim filed by survivors of the dead Marine.

The family also alleges in their claim that Loggins was lawfully sitting in his car and making no threatening movements when Deputy Darren Sandberg shot him to death on Feb. 7. 

Allegations in the claim differ substantially from the narrative  after Deputy Darren Sandberg shot Loggins in the parking lot of San Clemente High School at about 5 a.m. after he crashed into a gate.

(See the full text of the claim in the PDF attached to this article.)

"That's classic false imprisonment," said . "They were intentionally secreted away."

Dunn said the girls were told only their father was at the hospital, Dunn said, though OC Fire Authority spokesman Marc Stone told Patch shortly after the shooting that Loggins died almost immediately.

Also outlined in the claim was that Loggins was shot multiple times -- "at least two, maybe three," Dunn said.

The claim was filed naming Sandberg and the Orange County Sheriff's Department on behalf of Loggins' wife, Phoebe Loggins, four children identified by initials, and the estate of Manuel Loggins.

"At no time ... did Sgt. Manuel Loggins Jr. pose any reasonable threat of violence to the involved deputy, nor did he do anything to justify the use of deadly force against him," the claim states.

The claim reads that Loggins made, "no aggressive movements, no furtive gestures and no physical movements which would suggest to any reasonable deputy that he was armed with any kind of weapon, or had the will, or ability to inflict substantial bodily harm against any individual."

The claim cites faulty actions, faulty training, faulty hiring, faulty supervision that led to the shooting, and claims a host of other damages, such as assault, violation of civil rights, wrongful death, false imprisonment and others.

The claim, which Dunn said he sent out to the department today, is the first step in civil litigation. The family in the document claims damages in excess of $10,000 "within the unlimited jurisdiction of the California Superior Court."

smith stones March 08, 2012 at 09:41 PM
sounds like the family wants a payday not justice.
peoplewatcher March 08, 2012 at 10:27 PM
smith stones , you are a idiot.
Lindsey Hanson March 08, 2012 at 10:55 PM
I agree with peoplewatcher
Lindsey Hanson March 08, 2012 at 10:56 PM
I also agree with you Ms.SC
richard findlay March 08, 2012 at 10:57 PM
OCRegister has just posted articles that the deputy is back on the job! http://www.ocregister.com/news/loggins-343739-deputy-marine.html
smith stones March 08, 2012 at 11:01 PM
the truth hurts
David March 08, 2012 at 11:26 PM
Cops are a family, and cops stick together. Of course he's back on the job, where his friends and family can reassure him that what he did was right. It's not his fault that instead of being a criminal, it turns out this father of 5 was also a well respected marine, with not a bad mark on his record. Plus, they don't have to worry about the guy testifying. Dead men tell no tales, so whatever blame they can place on him now, can't be refuted in court. Certainly none of this deputys' friends will testify against him. They will 100% stand behind him, and say he was completely justified in shooting to kill. When you join the fraternity, you're in the club, and nobody will question your right to shoot if you feel like it. Of if you're really lucky, like in Fullerton, you can beat a homeless person to death, and the police department will rally behind you with full support.
ms.sc. March 09, 2012 at 01:35 AM
roadwarrior360, you have a right to report any abuse or inappropriate behavior you may have experienced or witnessed. I don't believe the OCSD are ruthless roughes as your post seems to suggest. How will the OCSD ever improve unless complaints aren't filed or even compliments are not even noted to those that do deserve recognition. Don't paint the whole OCSD as corrupt. They have an often times thankless, dangerous job to clock into to keep us safe.
george gregory March 09, 2012 at 02:22 AM
so few can hurt so many I believe there are systemic problems at the san clement ocsd and have been for over a decade I've been harassed for gathering referendum signatures ,, I've been assaulted and battered by the privileged and persecuted by our council I've had my way of life and fiscal well being ,assaulted and persecuted just because there's a ladder on my truck ,,I've faced strong arm extortion with responders claiming its a civil matter I've seen my life and property endangered and vandalized by the bye polar drunk with responders claiming no damage no value Mrs. Hutchins I feel some deputies go for what pays and not for what is proper or difficult all the while covering each other's butts, do they have a problem with the DA or their commander ,,, I don't understand this statement is not designed to inflame or harass the ocsd but to bring hopefully a change in policy and behavior ,,,,, too help ,,,, , not to be beaten like a Fullerton homeless man or to be signaled out for selective enforcement please provide promotion ,, but delay MR. de auras departure from san clement department , don't let these problems be kicked down the road,,,, to report a crime in san clement is to be harassed I cannot tell or put into words how bad I feel for the family of the slain or the clumsy deputy.. please say a little prayer for them , I'd like to help adjust the use of deadly force policies
Rob Buyan March 09, 2012 at 03:03 AM
If it turns out that the daughters were actually held for 13 hours without allowing ther mother to be with them, every deputy and/or DA responsible should be fired and criminally prosecuted. A civil lawsuit isn't sufficient.
ms.sc. March 09, 2012 at 05:21 AM
I agree. But why wouldn't the mother not know where her children were or husband for that long of a time period? If my children were in police custody..I would be there in a heart beat and no one would keep me from them. This troubles me to read the children were separated from their mother after this horrific event. The OCSD is not getting good public relation marks and no amount of PR is going to fix this except for the truth. The police video. We all know they use it for evidence. Let the public know the truth and have the OCSD keep the respect of the communities they serve. I personally do not want to see the video, but do want to know what happened to cause the chain of events to become deadly in front of two innocent children. The OCSD owes this to the communities they serve.
Edgar March 09, 2012 at 02:19 PM
When was the last time you heard about the police being intelligent ?????? You have a DA who lost his gun, a bitch who took over Corona's mafia, the whole justice system sucks and is a closed loop of self serving police, lawyers, judges who have lost sight of true justice, their attitude is “don’t you dare interrupt our self sustaining systems as we feed each other” Our only hope is to vote the them out of office then pursue the illegal conduct they have done and put their butt’s in jail….
Joker Joe March 09, 2012 at 04:31 PM
I believe after the pay day they will seek retribution.
Joker Joe March 09, 2012 at 04:52 PM
Edgar That is not your only hope. The top law enforcement in the U.S. is Attorney General Eric Holder. Write Obama's buddy!!!
Ronald Douglas Kennedy March 09, 2012 at 04:55 PM
Sandberg. One of Orange County Sheriff's Department, Fines?, back on the street's withe his weapon's of choise, to defend & protect the developing Police State Mentality. Before: Video's & Voice recording are released. To a rightfully questioning Public. Only asking Show use why this had to happen? The County have their civil bottom line insurance policies, to protect them. We the Public have our Federal Policies to protect us, as a united group. Called The Bill Of Rights. the First and Second are our key's to freedom. Don't let This Best Government Money Can Buy ever alter them.
Debbie Flanagan March 10, 2012 at 06:32 PM
If the family wanted a payday then the amount of the claims damages would have been more like $10,000,000. The father and provider of this family was shot to death. How is this family going to recover emotionally and financially? A mere $10,000 is not going to do it smith stones. The OCSD should be responsible to pay for college, housing and therapy for this family. In addition, the OCSD needs to come up with a viable plan to restore the damage they have caused in this community.
ms.sc. March 10, 2012 at 08:21 PM
This isn't the same community I grew up in. I think the OCSD spends more time on their Public Relations Department than training now. I just watched a PBS story on police recruits and how numbers were involved and the recruitment was based on this and that many should not have graduated to badge status..it was based on numbers, not integrity, safety, honor and community values. Where and when I grew up, we always thought of the Police Dept. as our friends, our safety net and the respect was mutual. None of us reading the papers know exacting what happened that horrific morning except for the children and the OCSD. The OCSD silence troubles their innocense in their moto to "Serve and Protect".
ms.sc. March 11, 2012 at 03:49 AM
Let's wait until all of the evidence is provided. It's sad, and yes I agree with you and Lindsey Hanson on most of your posts. It just sickens me to believe the OCSD would allow this to happen. Sad..maybe I have Rose Colored Glasses on. I apologize if I do.
Rob March 14, 2012 at 09:24 PM
The cops are doing the same thing all over the Country. Motivated by a corrupt govt to write more tickets and "defend" their pay and pension with complete absolution from criminal prosecution. WE, THE PEOPLE, may not need to stand tall, but we do need to stand up!!!!
billphill March 15, 2012 at 09:04 AM
Semper FI.If you are a marine or were in the navy or you are a veteran please read this. http://wh.gov/9Zl
Joker Joe January 08, 2013 at 05:45 PM
It is now 1/8/2013. The killing was ruled justified on the basis that the cop shooter read Loggins mind and knew the kids were in danger. Question!!! Does that mean I can go up to someone and because I think the passengers in their car are in danger I can kill the driver????
JustUs January 08, 2013 at 05:59 PM
This is a clear indication of a police state, Bill Bonney. There were about 4 cops on the scene when Sgt. Loggins was in the field reportedly 'acting irrationally'. The cops left the keys in the ignition. The cops left his 2 minor daughters in the back seat when they had ample time (7 minutes) to remove them. Toxicology tests after the fatal shooting proved that Sgt. Loggins had no drugs or alcohol in his system. When UNARMED Sgt. Loggins return to his car from the field (after reportedly 'acting irrationally' the 4 cops did not block his path or attempt to keep him from reentering his vehicle. He reportedly activated the brake lights and that is when the cops fired several rounds from the rear side of the vehicle (with the children inside still) and struck Sgt. Loggins - fatally wounding him. The cop was exonnerated by the DA and is still on the job. And there is reportedly a dash cam video that the sheriff's office refuses to release to the public. The video beating of Kelly Thomas was released to the public. Yet they withhold the video of the fatal shooting of decorated Marine Sgt. Manny Loggins from the public. wow. And not one of the public government meetings (city council meetings or county meetings) have had a moment of silence for slain Marine Sgt. Manny Loggins - but all the phony government officials tell us how much they appreciate those who serve our nation. wow. This removes all doubt for me. We live in a police state. FACT.
ms.sc. January 08, 2013 at 10:05 PM
JustUs, this dash cam video by law should be released. I find it troubling that it isn't. Small wonder they put on parades to boost community pride.
JustUs January 08, 2013 at 10:18 PM
ms.sc. - this is how the rules of the game favor the deceitful. They make laws to cover up wrongdoing. And they get away with it. It is unconscionable. But it is done all the time by those in authority and power. If the Loggin's family case does not going to civil trial and the case is settled out of court - the government can hide everything and nothing needs to get disclosed to the public. That is part of the coverup scam. So my prediction is that this case never goes to trial. The County will offer a huge settlement (like $10M) and all of it will get covered up. Part of the settlement agreement will buy silence from the other side. The taxpayers will pay through the nose for the cop who wrongfully killed a man and nothing happens to the cop. He keeps his job and his paycheck. So we are not truly a 'free' society, ms.sc. We just aren't. And to believe we are is like believing in the easter bunny or Santa Claus.
ms.sc. January 08, 2013 at 11:03 PM
O.J. eventually paid the price for his freedom, but the State of California paid for his "mockery". You are probably right, that the State of California will again be paying yet another sickening cover-up. JustUs, you may or maynot believe in Karma, but I do. It's a sad world when once you were taught to believe and respect people of uniform...now sometimes you fear them.
JustUs January 08, 2013 at 11:26 PM
Yes, ms.sc. Times have certainly changed. And not for the better. I do believe that we enter another dimension after death and in one way or another answer for our actions. I am not a deeply religious man, but I believe that all the evidence points to a spiritual force who (that) had a hand in forming the universe. After careful study, I concluded it could not happen by simple chance. That would be like me hitting the mega-lotto on Monday and then hitting the Super-Lotto on Wednesday. The odds dictate that there was a omnipotent creator and that force will deal with the foibles of the human race. If you want to call that "karma" that's your business. But it is disgraceful that grown adults handled the Sgt. Manny Loggins fatal shooting in the manner that they did. It flies in the face of any moral code. And most of us in my age bracket were raised upon some sort of moral code. And those in charge have dismissed it entirely. And that is shameful and a reflection upon how we have deteriorated as a society of people. All we can do is live decent lives and teach our children well - and expose the scoundrels for who they are, ms.sc. That's all we can do, my dear.
ms.sc. January 09, 2013 at 01:10 AM
Well spoken JustUs. I called "Karma", only because what you do in life, you ultimately receive eventually..
ms.sc. January 09, 2013 at 03:31 AM
P.S. JustUs...I do believe in God and Jesus too...not only Karma. Prayers for Sgt. Manny Loggin, R.I.P. and love and healing for his family. This is a sad disgrace to law enforcement.
JustUs January 09, 2013 at 03:54 AM
Well, that's good, ms.sc. Everyone has the right to believe in whatever they want to believe in, in this old country of ours. I'm a big fan of WC Fields from back in the good old days. He used to tell us that he "believed that he would have another drink". So whatever floats your boat is fine by me. I have wished good things for Manny's family myself. I simply can't imagine those 2 young girls watching their father gunned down a couple feet in front of them. wow. I try to put myself in the shoes of those little girls. I just can't. I really can't imagine anything more traumatic. And then being help captive by the cops for something like 15 hours after the fact keeping the mother at bay. My good God. What kind of monsters have these people in positions of authority turned into? I wouldn't do that to a litter of dogs, let alone human beings. I feel so very sorry for that poor family. May God be at their side.
ms.sc. January 09, 2013 at 04:08 AM
JustUs, your WC Fields comment I may be too young to remember, however I am old enough, and wise enough to know that WC Field's beliefs were far from wisdom. JustUs, have a blessed New Year. Though many of us are sad, actually horrified by the actions of the OCSD, there may be little you, I, or any of the previous posters can do, but pray. Good Night, JustUs.


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