Pendleton Chief Knocks Response to Deputy’s Shooting of Marine

Col. Nick Marano, commanding officer at the base, says OC officials have made “incorrect and deeply hurtful” statements about Sgt. Manny Loggins.

Camp Pendleton’s commanding officer, Col. Nick Marano, criticized civilian authorities Thursday for their public response to last week’s fatal shooting of Marine Sgt. Manny Loggins Jr. by an Orange County deputy sheriff.

“While I am confident they will do the right thing in the end, I am less than satisfied with the official response from the City of San Clemente and Orange County,” Marano said in a press release. “Many of the statements made concerning Manny Loggins’ character over the past few days are incorrect and deeply hurtful to an already grieving family.”

He added: “Sgt. Manny Loggins was a loved and respected Marine. We have received an unprecedented amount of emails and phone calls this past week from current and former Marines who knew and loved Sgt. Loggins. A family has lost their father, husband, brother and son. An unborn child will never know her father.”

Marano’s statement follows a week of conflicting accounts and unanswered questions from the Sheriff’s Department, as well as critical remarks by the deputies union, which blamed Loggins for the incident.

Initially, law enforcement officials said the deputy opened fire out of fear for his own life. A few days later, they said the deputy shot an “irrational” Loggins to prevent him from driving away and possibly harming his two daughters, who were in the back seat.

“The information released to Marine Corps officials from the District Attorney’s office is the same information released publicly by Orange County officials,” said the press release from Camp Pendleton.

According to the unidentified deputy’s version of events, Loggins sped into the parking lot of San Clemente High School around 4:40 a.m. Feb. 7 and rammed though a locked gate in his GMC Yukon.

The deputy, who had been parked nearby writing reports, pulled up behind him. Loggins got out of the car, ignored the deputy's commands and walked off into the darkness. The deputy summoned backup units and, after hearing screams from the Yukon, found Loggins’ two young daughters in the back seat. The girls said their father had been acting oddly, according to the deputies union.

A few minutes later, Loggins returned to the vehicle, behaving “irrationally” and ignoring the orders of deputies who had their guns drawn, officials said.

When Loggins got back into the vehicle and began to drive away, a deputy shot him through the driver’s-side window, officials said.

Loggins died shortly after at Mission Hospital. The case is under investigation by the Orange County District Attorney's office, which investigates all officer-involved shootings. NCIS officials have said they are assisting with the investigation.

jeff s February 17, 2012 at 02:58 PM
This is a cover up! Deputy murderer needs to be stripped of his badge and thrown in jail - for life. Disgusting lies and laughable stories, absurd children are running the PR campaign at the OCSD. What a crock!! Damn the evil swines.
Ryan Thomas February 17, 2012 at 04:34 PM
Arm chair quarterbacks? Really? I see a lot of concerned, long-time locals who expect the investigation by the District Attorney's office to be nothing more than a sham.
Mike Lyons February 17, 2012 at 05:25 PM
This story does not add up. The Marine crashes through a gate with his kids in the car, parks vehicle, gets out and "walks away" from an armed police officer who is commanding him to stop. 1. Marines are trained to obey orders from lawful authority. 2. Where did he go? 3. If the officer's primary concern was the children why not take the kids out of the vehicle or disable the Marine's vehicle by blocking it with his cruiser. There were many things short of killing that could and should have been done here. This does not sound like a case where deadly force was warranted and if the Marine had done this in Iraq he would be facing a Court Martial.
Susie Hutto February 17, 2012 at 06:04 PM
Reeks of coverup! But like the kelly thomas case, this too will blow up when the untainted truth comes out. I commend Col. Marano for having the guts and balls to speak out. Sgt. Loggins DID NOT deserve to die the way he did and definitely NOT in front of his children. The police say his daughter said he was acting irrational that morning? Maybe he was running late and upset at himself. I'm a maniac biotch when i'm running late but i don't deserve to die for it. Justice for Manny is what we demand and what he and his family deserve! People, do not let this be swept under the carpet like Manny didn't matter. He mattered to his fellow marines and especially to his wife and three kids...one of whom will grow up never knowing their dad. I know several local police and not all cops are bad. Just takes one bad apple to spoil it for the rest. Stop the insanity of cops hiding behind their badge.
James February 17, 2012 at 07:23 PM
I pray that in the end they don't really try saying Sgt Loggins brought his own death upon himself. Its funny, people who support the deputy; how can you actually say its ok to take a LIFE for not listening?
SC Resident February 17, 2012 at 07:49 PM
I guess Marines are only trained to follow orders from other Marines, not civilian law enforcement. I guess you guys all think you're above the law and are exempt from orders by civilian law enforcement! That explains the death of the four jackasses in Dana Point. You need to keep your men under control! If they're going to drive drunk - let them do it at Pendleton, and endanger the lives of fellow Marines-NOT CIVILIANS! I thought you guys are supposed to protect the citizens of this country, not endanger us!
GreenInOC February 17, 2012 at 07:54 PM
@SC Resident, you do realize that the Marine that drove drunk didn't do so BECAUSE he was a Marine don't you? You surely must realize that civilians, unfortunately, make the poor decision to drink and drive every day. What order(s) did Sgt. Loggins fail to follow? Oh, that's right, we don't know because the OCSD refuses to tell the citizens it serves. The whole thing could easily be put to rest with the release of the unedited dashboard cam footage and the disclosure of the truth. The only people a delay and the continued misinformation serves, is the OCSD - NOT the citizens of this country, it only endangers us.
GreenInOC February 17, 2012 at 07:55 PM
I can handle the truth if only the OCSD was willing to tell it.
SC Resident February 17, 2012 at 07:56 PM
Susie Hutto February 17, 2012 at 08:27 PM
@ sc resident who tinkled in your cornflakes this morning? How dare you call those marines who died in that accident jackasses. Their probably the same marines that put their lives on the line to keep narrowed people like yourself free. shame! Semper Fi. God bless our military!
James February 17, 2012 at 08:46 PM
Lol sc resident wow you really that bored sorry to have your life, that you feel stirring up dirt will bring you amusement. you obviously know there's a lot of marines posting on here. it shouldn't matter if manny was a marine or not. death for not listening not make sense for anyone even u. yes people have rights in this country, like you are using pretending you are a tough guy over the internet, you know your balls not be that big if you're in person talking
george gregory February 17, 2012 at 09:32 PM
your right being a marine had nothing to do with lucky for the victim he has good company anybody else would be swept under the ocsd rug
Thomas February 18, 2012 at 02:18 AM
Shocking and disturbing. This deserves a full outside investigation by the US attorneys office. This has a very bad smell to it. Citizens should avoid visiting, shopping, dining or doing business in San Clemente until satisfactory answers are forth coming from the authorities. D. Thomas MD
Cozmo Topper February 18, 2012 at 04:26 AM
You're about as smart as a rock aren't you? But not too stupid, posting on the internet sure gives you the balls you lack in real life, doesn't it? The "four jackasses"? Run along and tell mommy I'll be late tonight, and go pick up your room.
Cozmo Topper February 18, 2012 at 04:30 AM
This Marine was killed by the deputy who had no justification to use deadly force. Black or white, this deputy killed this Marine for no reason other than he was afraid, afraid of this Marine. Take the kids from the vehicle? Nope, Keep him from re-entering the vehicle, nope. Then why, why was allowed to get into the car. Didn't the news media say "other deputies had responded"? Where they? Were they hiding as well? Please ask the FBI to come in and investigate this..the DA will cover it up, no doubt in my mind at all. Semper Fi and go with God Sgt. Loggins.
Kim Garrett February 18, 2012 at 05:15 PM
As a retired LEO I must say this doesn't look good at all. However, we live in a society where we are questioned for actions as well as non actions. Had the Sgt been truly having problems and was allowed to drive away and say, drove his vehicle into the ocean in that area, and killed his daughters, we would be questioning the officers for not stopping him when they had the chance. It's a bad situation all around, no winners in this one.
Ted Olsen February 18, 2012 at 08:32 PM
Colonel Marano: THANK YOU for speaking up and adressing this terrible event and the spin a union is putting on the murder of an unarmed father. You have more support in the community than you will ever know. A trigger happy man took another man's life in front of his daughters. There certainly was another solution. Pulling the trigger is ALWAYS the last choice.
Rob Buyan February 18, 2012 at 08:34 PM
The point here is that they had ALREADY stopped him. The vehicle was stopped and the suspect was away from the vehicle for several minutes. The deputies clearly had cause to arrest Sgt. Loggins and impound his vehicle and its contents. Pursuant to that authority, the deputies could have turned off the ignition and removed the keys. Also, they could removed the girls to a safe place. Instead, according to all three versions of the facts released so far, Sgt. Loggins was allowed to get back into his vehicle and attempt to drive away. It was at that point that the deputy shot him. We have heard a similar tale before. In 2010, the Laguna Beach PD killed a suspect following a chase and collision. The published facts indicate that police had gone inside the car after the crash but didn't bother to remove the keys. The injured young man then put the car in gear and start to move, so the police killed him. The OCDA concluded that the shooting was justified. I expect that we will see the same result here. The shooting will be deemed "justified." It won't matter that the perceived “threat” could have been averted if the deputy who was in the SUV talking to the girls had simply turned off the ignition and removed the key. If nothing else, I hope that this tragedy will cause the OCSD to re-evaluate how they train deputies—i.e., they should be trained to remove the keys from a threatening suspect’s car when they have the opportunity to do so.
Connie Miller February 19, 2012 at 02:17 AM
Thank you, Ted. My feelings precisely. Does anyone know if NCIS is participating in the investigation or conducting conducting its own parallel investigation? Very different.
pedros57. February 19, 2012 at 05:28 PM
Killiing a National Gurd on any disarm position is a shame, these actions of unjustifications must be brought to the Tribunals, we can not allow these wrong doing to our service patriot personal. The DA. Dept. Must Act Homest and Neutral Conducting this Loggins case matter. Thanks.
Jarheadjoe February 19, 2012 at 08:53 PM
As a medically retired marine wounded in combat and living in las Vegas,nv. I'm familiar with the metro police dept. Here and what they have been allowed to get away with by killing unarmed civilans. in the most recent incident here involving a former soldier who was killed with auto. Rifle fire because he would not exit his car. Justice dept.p Refused to investigate. This killing of the marine is just another example of poor police training, a willingness to shoot first and corrupt officals who look the other way and cover for police . Weed out bad cops....we have a number of good ones who respect human life. Semper fi
Connie Miller February 19, 2012 at 11:01 PM
Mike, I know that if I had collided in the pre-dawn hour with a gate which I had expected to be open, I'd be out of my car to assess the damage, think about what it's going to take to repair, and I would not necessarily be a calm, cool dudette.
Earl Jackson February 21, 2012 at 03:01 AM
Did the Marine have a Gun? Did he even have a knife? Serves his country to be shot down like a dog in the streets. Shooting an unarmed man in the back hardly sounds like protecting and serving.. I will not be surprised if Marines pay this officer a visit.. Maybe not now but definitely later...
Earl Jackson February 21, 2012 at 03:13 AM
I forgot to add...Being killed in front of your daughters...shot in the back by an police instructor anxious to use his weapon and anxious to gain some street cred from his collegues...is hardly the life & legacy this marine deserved but is rather strange irony in that this marine went to war to protect the freedoms & liberties exercised by greedy bankers anxious to loot the American coffers; peoples homes, property legacy, while paying the service men (servants, slaves) a fools gold (paper backed by a federal reserve note that is not federal & has no reserves) to police, kill eachother & citizens out in the streets (under the illusion of inclusion) while the 1% get rich at the peoples expense. Delicious irony
soccerdude February 25, 2012 at 03:19 PM
What a tragedy all the way around. Unless you are the most cynical person on the planet, you have to know that the officer involved will have to live with this moment for the rest of his life. The Loggins Family is forever changed. Three kids will not have a father. I know that there are many out there who automatically blame the "facist cops" in these cases, but our officers face situations that none of us can even imagine. These officers couldn't know what we know now and hindsight is 20-20, but imagine if the officers did not act and Loggins had gotten into his vehicle and a chase ensued and the car crashes and Loggins and his kids are killed? Would we be hearing cries that the officers should have acted sooner to prevent a tragedy? My biggest problem with this whole issue is that our officers seemed to be ill-equipped with less than lethal force weapons such as tasers, bean bag shotguns, etc. Heck, they could have shot out all four of the tires! With all of the technology available today, why aren't our officers better equipped? Regardless, a huge tragedy for all involved. My condolences to the Loggins Family, the US Marine Corps and the OCSD. No winners, just losers all the way around.
soccerdude February 25, 2012 at 03:28 PM
Earl, this is hardly the place to espouse your "occupy wall street" rhetoric. Save it for another day.
Commonsense March 11, 2012 at 01:47 AM
You probably didn't know about 30-40% of OCSD are former Marines.
Penny Arévalo (Editor) March 20, 2012 at 06:20 PM
Please watch your language, per Patch policy.
lee hannah March 20, 2012 at 06:39 PM
It's always the Mexican cops that's fearing for their life first. Ask a city cop or a sheriff deputy why they aren't working for the fed's. Because they're too dumb to get a job in the federal government. I studied Criminology and was an officer in the Army National Guard in my early 20's. Dealing with city cops and sheriff deputies was like dealing with blue collar criminals. They gave me a headache and still do.
dick burke April 05, 2012 at 01:36 PM
another stupid chickenshit cop with no balls.


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