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Challenger Baker Will Appear on Ballot Above Incumbent Baker

Baker "0" will appear in the fifth position, while Baker "1" will appear in the sixth and last position on November's San Clemente City Council ballot.

A city official randomly drew the name of the San Clemente City Council race's challenger Bob Baker to appear before his rival namesake on the November San Clemente City Council ballot.

As a result of an obscure election law governing situations in which two identical names appear on the same ballot, San Clemente city officials held a drawing to see if City Council incumbent Bob Barker or his challenger would get top billing on the ballot. Deputy Clerk Anthony Mejia wore a blindfold and faced the wall as City Clerk Joanne Baade turned a drum for 30 seconds. She was mixing up the names of each Bob Baker vying for one of two council seats. Each wrote his name and number designation, which will appear on the ballot.

The challenger will appear on the ballot in the fifth position as "Robert 'Bob' Baker 0." The incumbent will appear as "Robert 'Bob' Baker 1" in the sixth and last position.

City officials drew the names Thursday afternoon.

Allison Winters August 31, 2012 at 03:16 PM
Bob Baker1 Stinks! I wouldn’t vote for Bob Baker1 to be the dog catcher. For him to vote against the Farmer Market and the San Clemente Sports Hall of Fame, among all his other lousy Anti-San Clemente votes, I hope he comes in last in votes and deserves to be last on the ballot!
Patricia Gatacre August 31, 2012 at 06:41 PM
My husband and I do not acknowledge any Bob Baker EXCEPT the incumbent...that's why he's Bob Baker #1...."0" on the other hand, signifies NOTHING. We don't care where he is on the ballot, we're voting for the "1" and only Bob Baker!!!!
Allison Winters October 17, 2012 at 09:59 PM
Bob Bakerʼs Top 10 “No” votes. " 1. No to continuing the Sunday Morning Farmers Market on Del Mar. 2. No to the San Clemente Sports Hall of Fame which is nothing more than pictures on the wall of the Vista Hermosa Aquatic Parks of outstanding SCHS athletes. Bob Baker#1 was the sole dissenting vote 3. No bathrooms for handicapped kids at Courtneyʼs Sand Castle. He said they can go down the street. 4. No to building sidewalks at Max Berg Park near the Las Palmas Elementary School. 5. No to protecting our coastal canyons by dividing a critical coastal canyon lot and opening up SC to splitting lots on all our costal canyons. 6. No to provide parking in North Beach in support of parking needs for commuters and to provide parking so our the nearby historical buildings can be revitalized. 7. No to banning smoking in public parks where kids play. 8. No to banning single use plastic bags. 9. No to local art project by painting electrical boxes. 10. Cost the City of San Clemente $1000ʼs as part of ethics investigation for leaking confidential information from a closed session of the city council. There are many more no votes but this is a one page flyer. Please check for yourself what makes Bob Baker #1 the worst council member in the history of San Clemente. Thank you for voting for anyone but Bob Baker#1 Sincerely, Allison Winters, Mom and 15 year SC resident.
we the people October 18, 2012 at 02:55 AM
For people to take your thoughts seriously you might consider providing some understanding for your disregard for elected officials. Otherwise, doing what you have done simply discredits your validity as a commenter. It is best to post facts which provide a complete picture. Unsupported statements, known as drive by's (a reference to drive by shooters), are just seen as random acts of hostility with no benefit to the cause.
we the people October 18, 2012 at 03:05 AM
Interesting that you are attacking the pro-resident candidate. This seems personal to you or you are a puppet for the special interests. I hope not. If you have truly lived in San Clemente this long we can use your zeal to research the following: 1. Ask the Chamber of Commerce how they see fit to endorse any political candidates given they are funded by the City. 2. Investigate Jim Dahl and all the special interest ties he has. 3. Investigate how / why Jim Dahl buddied up with Mike Mortensen
Allison Winters October 18, 2012 at 03:45 AM
"We the people" Stop hiding and put your real name down here. It is cowardly to hide who you really are. Read on. How is this for being specific about how horrible Bob Baker is San Clemente children and everyone else. From the San Clemente City Council meetings, here is a sample of Bob Bakerʼs Top 10 “No” votes. 1. No to continuing the Sunday Morning Farmers Market on Del Mar. 2. No to the San Clemente Sports Hall of Fame which is nothing more than pictures on the wall of the Vista Hermosa Aquatic Parks of outstanding SCHS athletes. Bob Baker#1 was the sole dissenting vote 3. No bathrooms for handicapped kids at Courtneyʼs Sand Castle. He said they can go down the street. 4. No to building sidewalks at Max Berg Park near the Las Palmas Elementary School. 5. No to protecting our coastal canyons by dividing a critical coastal canyon lot and opening up SC to splitting lots on all our costal canyons. 6. No to provide parking in North Beach in support of parking needs for commuters and to provide parking so our the nearby historical buildings can be revitalized. 7. No to banning smoking in public parks where kids play. 8. No to banning single use plastic bags. 9. No to local art project by painting electrical boxes. There are many more no votes but this is a one page flyer. Please check for yourself what makes Bob Baker #1 the worst council member in the history of SC. Thank you for voting for anyone but Bob Bake, Sincerely, Allison Winters, Mom and 15 year SC resident.
Allison Winters October 18, 2012 at 09:15 PM
To We the People, I voted for Bob Baker 4 years ago. Then I saw how he voted no to everything that is good for our city. Bob is anti kids, anti-environment, in general anti everything; he gets nothing done. So as I researched more and found out that Bob Baker is supported by the largest out of town developer in southern California, Charles Mann. That guy is one angry guy. Hence, I am campaigning against Bob Baker. Anybody but Bob! My facebook page is called, "Bob baker Sticks" in dedication to his horrible tenureand voting record as a one term do nothing council member!
Moonshine October 18, 2012 at 09:49 PM
We the People- Why don't you do some investigating??? Wasn't it you that sunk to the lowest of the low a few days ago stating Mortenson's wife is a democrat?! Oh yes, it was you. Investigate before YOU post next time. Your statement was wrong, but not as wrong as you bringing a candidates family member into the discussion. Where do you go from there, are you going to start acting candidates children next? You should be ashamed of yourself, and of your untrue statements. Also Investigate why Baker and Hamm are attacking Mortenson for being developer backed, while he has not taken a single penny from a developer, yet HAMM's YARD SIGNS WERE PAID FOR BY A DEVELOPER. So were attack ads sent out against Mortenson and Dahl by a Baker and Hamm supporter- again a developer paid for these as well. Investigate why Baker made such a big deal out of a few signs Mortenson had made in Santa Ana, all the while Baker knew that he himself was spending the MAJORITY of his campaign money in Torrance. Lastly Investigate why Mortenson is endorsed by the OC Republican Party, The Chamber, the Lincoln Club, The OC Register, 7 former mayors or council members, and many more. Good luck with your investigation!!
we the people October 18, 2012 at 09:56 PM
If this is the case then prove it so all can benefit from it. Share this research. While you are at it do the same for all the candidates. Then publish your findings with all the supporting facts.
we the people October 18, 2012 at 09:59 PM
Moonshine research is all we do. For your copy of the proof go to the voter registrars office and buy a copy of the data for yourself. Americans deserve the truth and it starts by expecting that from their representatives. If your wish is to defend your candidate do it. Do it by compelling them to publish who all their contributors are.
Moonshine October 18, 2012 at 10:21 PM
Really?? Sure doesn't sound like it. You must be talking about Baker?? When you say candidates should be compelled to publish who all their contributors are? I agree with you!! Let's see where that 31K he lent himself really came from... On the other hand, Mortenson has published all his contributions, it was in the SC Times and the Register. As was Baker's and Hamm's. Hence me knowing about the out of town DEVELOPER supporting them both. The only person being sneaky about contributors is Baker1 who won't accept any donation over $99. We all know why that is! Any donation over $99, needs to be reported and the information of who donated it is public. Sneaky BB1 will take all the $99 donations he can get, in addition to the 31,000 he "loaned" to himself, just so that nobody will ever know who his donors are. I feel really bad for those (few) folks who may have a 100.00 bill in hand, but just can't give it to him, cuz he only wants 99.00... so sad... He should change his name from BB1 to BB99!
Oswald Junior October 18, 2012 at 10:30 PM
We the people - what are the facts that you are referring to? You have not stated one fact with your posts. All you are doing is insinuating and making assumptions. You think just because Allison Winters isn't voting for Bob Baker that she can't have lived in SC as long as she said she has? Makes no sense! Also, as for you to bring Mr. Mortenson's family into your blogs is completely disrespectful and as a voter, that makes me want Baker out of the Council even more. Thanks for the extra motivation…
Patricia Gatacre October 19, 2012 at 12:32 AM
Personally, I don't give a rat's hind end about all the nit-picking. Assume that EVERYONE is somehow on-the-take, lying for a good cause (his or her OWN) and vote as you see fit. NO ONE could be more deleterious to the city (and I've been a home OWNER not just a resident) of SC for 34 years, than Dahl and Lori Donchak (a former advertising executive for Kraft Cheese products via J. Walter Thompson, one of the largest advertising agencies in the nation). We The People should place their energy against major projects that affect ALL of us...like the "canyonization" of the Del Mar business district and the deplorable status of Max Berg Plaza Park...the anything-goes because NO BODY is watching park. As for me, I'll tend my roses and enjoy the last of summer weather in my blissful back yard.

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